18 Months

That’s how long the wait list is at the Brief Psychotherapy Centre for Women in Toronto. 18 months. I was not expecting that. Ouch. I guess that’s another option out.

When we need help we need it now. It might not be a crisis but why would any of us want to live with certain problems that much longer?

Oh the Ontario mental health system.


26 thoughts on “18 Months

  1. As with heart disease, most peeps don’t want to take care of the problem until they have an attack. maybe MI is thought of in the same way. Just wait till you are rock bottom and ready to die before anyone helps~~pretty sad state of affairs. We should all go sign up and all show up in 18 months. 🙂
    oh wait, i’m from the states. well, you all go do it!

    i’m very sorry to hear about the shootings. Hope they get the person/people. It will be interesting to see how they twist this on the news.

  2. That is a ridiculous wait time. When I went to the hospital in Toronto in crisis, they were horrid. But they gave me this card that saved my life. A woman came to meet me near my home that day. Here is the number for the saint Elizabeth free crisis centre.(416) 498-0043. I would recommend giving them a call. Keep fighting.

  3. This always surprises me when I read stuff like this from Canada. But I have Canadian friends who, while they like your health care system on the whole, have specifically said the Mental Health side in Ontario is sorely lacking. This is like having to make an appt. 18 months in advance for a broken arm. Sorry to hear this.

    • I know how to be seen faster but I’d have to make a big fuss, which I shouldn’t have to. I’m seen faster for a cold…. I love my province’s health system this is just one of it’s weak links. It can be fixed, just no one is doing anything.

  4. It’s not much better in BC, and it’s so fragmented here it’s hard to get help you need because if your local mental health unit doesn’t offer what you need, your SOL. If I lived in Vancouver, I could for example get into DBT program, but I don’t live there (I live in the region but not in the city proper) so I am stuck with a dysfunctional mental health unit that really offers nothing but pills.

    I am sorry the wait is so long, it seems to be pretty much the norm across the country. In Cobourg in 2013 when i was in ON still, I overdosed on purpose, spent 2 days in the medical floor, cleared medically, and released, didn’t even see a psychiatrist or have a consult with anyone from mental health. They were also going to release me 20km from home, with no wallet and no money to pay for a cab, luckily a nice person gave me a ride.

    I am not sure how to change it though, those who advocate for mental illness are not heard and I don’t think our numbers are large enough for politicians to really care, so they don’t change anything.

    • I think a lot of the mainstream effort into improving the mental health system is actually about improving just the person. So many anti-stigma campaigns are about getting people to stop being mean to us so we’ll go get help. Fine, I want help but where the hell is it?! We need to be addressing the systemic problems and those working in our mental health system need to be better trained! I feel like your personal example just describes “helping” professionals who hate their job.

      • Yes unfortunately too many in mental health do seem to hate their jobs, and seemed to have chosen the wrong profession.

        One positive thing I do have to say about BC, is psychiatric nursing is a completely different specialty and degree here so people going into the program are taught specifically amount mental health, psychiatry, psychology and such, they don’t focus on physical ailments and that does seem to help since someone is specifically choosing to go into the mental health field, where in regions where RN’s handle psychiatric stuff, I think many times they just get “stuck” in mental health without really wanting to work there, and RN’s don’t get a whole lot of training in mental health issues overall.

        It’s the one shining star in BC’s system, seems to eliminate a good amount of people who hate their jobs, and brings in more people with empathy towards people.

        But at the end of the day lack of funding is the biggest issue, the government doesn’t see a need to spend more for some reason, I am not sure if they don’t realize it’s not enough, or if they simply don’t care.

        Hell they could relieve waiting lists if they would just approve psychologists and counselors to be approved under medical services, would take the strain off psychiatrists. I’d personally rather see a counselor, but its not covered so I don’t, but if it was covered, I’d see one, I feel a counselor would be more useful for me then a doctor dosing out pills.

  5. How sad to hear this! Here in the US we have a hotline available for anyone that is having mental problems…is there anything like that up there? Just a thought to help until you’ve found a good teacher/mentor/health provider…

      • I feel like at this point in my life I’m done with flimsy counselling. I know what I want, I just need someone who is qualified to help me get there. I want that specialized care. I can’t pay for it and I don’t want to wait a year for it.

      • Yeah, counselors come in two “types” – I’ve noticed this for years being with many: experience-oriented and book-learned…I’m blessed that I get group therapy for 6 hours a week with two counselors. The first one is type 1, experience…the second is type 2, book-learned. When she has groups there’s a heavy fog that seems to set in at times; not always, but sometimes for she always comes in with papers on topics to discuss and the other one does to, but sometimes we never get around to it with her…lol. I’ll keep you in my heart n prayers as you continue your search…

      • Thank you!

        I’m just becoming really drawn to seeing someone who knows some specific. Not the blanket topics. That’s what I’ve always had.

        I’ve had more book-learners I believe.

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